Musicians Hall of Fame Backstage: JI Allison

Musicians Hall of Fame Backstage: JI Allison



welcome to musicians Hall of Fame backstage I'm Joe chambers our first guest tonight is ji Allison the drummer from the crickets when we come back junior Allison okay yeah hey how you doing good thanks for coming thanks for having me so one thing that we want to do on this show is we want to talk about things that everybody would be interested in but really geared toward more musicians so every musician every drummer is going to want to know what kind of drums you prefer what you start out with how'd you get started so let's just start with that how did you get started what made you want to be a musician I went to a football game when I was probably in the fifth or sixth grade and I want to play the bass drum and so I went to the band director and an elementary school like in Plainview Texas and and he had me like Pat my foot you know vote he said you'll do and it's why folks ordered me a drum from Sears & Roebuck and I played that and that and then I played in junior high school and then I played in high school and I played in Texas tick by ant marching band in the marching band in the concert band and sometimes region high school I took drum lessons which didn't hurt be a bit but I really enjoyed the whole deal and I went to tech for 14 weeks what kind of drugs did they get you I don't think I went to Sears Minerva Roebuck had one the first trap said they call them was a Slingerland and of course it was used and the guy had lights in the tom-toms and the bass drum every time you hit Hawaii United light up purple and pretty cool but I'm from with that is when you light a light bulb and a drum he goes pump he's hiring higher the heat maybe from the light book but after that buddy and Don gas and that Buddy Holly and Don yes and I went on tour but you only got 14 weeks of Texas Tech in guy hired us for the backup band for George Jones and cowboy Copas and Hank Locklin as one of those cowboy tour country music tears was like the ten people on it and Justin Tubb what year was a 56 and so I couldn't eat college and do that too and everybody's really happy except my mom and dad since I quit college but then we got $10 a day on that tour the piece and all expenses were paid there's a 14-day tour all over the south and anyway when I got home had $140 so I went and a lot of money hey Wow and I went to della honey's music store and bought myself a set of premiered rhymes and and after that I had lead wigging and after I you know my little man didn't eat anything then I started endorsing loaded week and they gave me all that stuff when I didn't particularly need it but I prefer let be their dice people and you know I got a lot like I got a set of a 75th anniversary they're like mahogany with the Eagles engraved in Hindman but Chad Smith from the Chili Peppers said it's kind of the same thing except he stole the music store and still a drum he said now I'm a star they give him to me he said so I'm the Robin Hood of rock I give them to my friends who can't afford them now but so did was there a special sizes that you preferred on the drums or did you just get whatever you could get well I didn't know you one size from another and I'm not really a connoisseur of drums like if like after you know I was Karen have my own dreams wherever I went like we were to Sonny Curtis and Joe be modeled I went to England with the Early's in 1960 and I didn't take any drugs with me that his played water was there and but we were in England in 1958 a fella from premier came and came and send the shows and they made me a set which is of the musicians Hall of Fame yeah and anyway I didn't know what to order you know I said what do you want my swell I'd like a Tom and I like two big Tom's on or like for Bo Diddley playing Bo Diddley or something so they made those for me and anyway that's what I played till I kissed you the everybody brothers a loop tape drums which a lot of people refer to they if I was drummers wondering how'd he do that you know what what kind of what size drums are those and heard a lot of drummers actually bring that song up well that's great that's a compliment there everybody's did pretty como show some time in that period and I guess there's 159 or 61 when that record came out and they said I can't do it so they did it on the Tiffany's Turner probably didn't have time time and sometimes the other when I saw everybody brothers documentum Chet Atkins said that was the first time he saw that kind of rig in the studio everybody sort of just played you know they didn't care much for drums in the old days the musicians Hall of Fame and Museum has been celebrating the men and women who make the music of our lives since 2006 the musicians Hall of Fame is the one and only Museum in the world that honors the talented musicians who played on the greatest recordings of all time it's a music video it's and where else you gonna get the cats or the cats that are in this room the Grammy Museum gallery at the musicians Hall of Fame is an interactive facility that allows guests to explore the process of making a recording take drum lessons with ringo starr sing onstage with Ray Charles write a song with Desmond child wrap with Nellie or B Garth Brooks in our recording studio experience located in the heart of downtown Nashville in the first floor of the historic Nashville Municipal Auditorium come see what you've heard at the musicians Hall of Fame and Museum hi i'm tyler rudesheim director of events at the musicians Hall of Fame and Museum located within the historic Nashville meanest wada tour iam the musicians Hall of Fame and Museum is one of the most unique spaces in downtown Nashville offering a versatile environment that caters to events of all sizes your guests will love this truly national experience we specialize in corporate dinners music industry events receptions and more contact me today to book your next event with you guys it was there was a really heartfelt it was passionate and it was connected to something that as we know it was more than meaningful which played so well for us as young blues musicians just aspiring but we we already had like a little bit of looking at it kickstart and realizing this there's a definite connect with you you can't mess around and show off playing blues a lot of people sort of sort of did and sort of and some of it was finally mutated into something different we were in our own little way trying to just emulate as best as we could if you mess with it you screw it up just by Paul later on for blues playing it was so important like Peter Green and form Fleetwood Mac John McVie he would literally be on his knees the Bass Pro flip of life if he was standing here with me you go to anyone like Eric Clapton Jimmy Page button Rodney I mean you've gone forever as to where they drew you know all things you've heard before and I'm just somewhere in the queue with musicians that I know this tune ass you know hey it's always love you know in our world we get some of that too but there's always a connect to where it comes from you must have met Paul from from the Beatles and yeah he told me went and it went for the crickets who wouldn't really be no special yeah I remember sitting years back when when life was a party and Alan and I was sitting at ringo's house who I knew a little bit back in the day and he suddenly turned around because I was fairly active and with Fleetwood Mac and he said what am i doing he's enjoying life you know God knows one of the Beatles he said me it's suddenly dawned on me I don't have a drum kit in my house he's he would love that and it was John thus afternoon is going to be full of regret that he wasn't here it's such a pleasure it's fun to be meeting and talking ciao it is unbelievable pleasure yeah well one thing I always wanted to ask Chet and I originally what we're going to do this show in 1997 and I asked Chad I said you know would you but you did this show what it wasn't called musicians Hall of Fame them because we didn't there was no musicians on Fame I just thought it'd be cool that when I had the guitar shops to do something that musicians would enjoy seeing and as well as regular people you know and so uh one of the things I wanted to ask Chet was I didn't feel seeing the Beatles playing at Chet Atkins you know guitar on that Sullivan Show and then how many people were influenced in you know basically bought Gretsch guitars for that reason you know first you and then then the Beatles and you know however ever thought about how many drummers that you've influenced because you were like you know when yo you when you guys were inducted to the musicians Hall of Fame and oh and I think it was and I'm Keith Richards came in and said if it weren't for you guys there wouldn't probably wouldn't of been a Beatles and there definitely would've been a Rolling Stones yeah that was a mighty nice it's sort of embarrassing nice to be back in Nashville ladies and gentlemen how many are left I don't know look it's my job and my honor actually to try to tell you something about some guys that I don't know if any many Americans actually know the effect that these guys behind me had in England and in Europe you know because you're Americans and you know what you like you know and but these are the without these guys you'd probably wouldn't have the Beatles you certainly wouldn't have understand huh it was the idea of this band this bunch of musicians that actually wrote and sang unrecorded and put them out this idea of a unit that could actually operate together that actually turned us all on it was without them like I said there would be no way they were the whole idea of probably the first global you know [Laughter] you know it's spreads and it goes around but the probably the whole idea of any of us anywhere else was sprung from the idea of these guys from Lubbock I knew going where and it's funny how things can spring from out of nowhere you know and I know I did but you see I couldn't have sprung if these Gaiden had spring in the first place so I mean without really much further ado I'd really like to my joy and honor to induct the crickets into this musical Hall of Fame you're so nice but I don't think they said that just to be nice I mean that you know well Paul McCartney start selling time one for the crickets it wouldn't be the Beatles of course he didn't give me money I suppose so you didn't get paid enough it's really funny because back when we we first started we were on the road I think it's a 17 week tour and we had like four days off during the whole thing Road and there was like 20 acts or maybe 22 it buried because some of the people on the show had better gigs and then come back and work on that show and there's two buses carrying start except for fest Domino and Chuck Berry and they had their own rides anyway it was great all those people and I sure learned a lot from those guys like to new it was a Fats Domino drummer and and Little Richard's drummer named Charles Connors he was in the girl king hip hit yeah Anna which I think we saw like 10 or 12 times probably you took my question I was gonna say who did you listen to who influenced you but there you go well I like in school I heard here on the radio and I like had a couple of Gene Krupa records there's I was pretty impressed with him of course Brady rich was playing and then I got into rock and roll about the you know in high school and well so brought when you say rock and roll what did you consider rock and roll because you kind of were in the genesis of onion I guess I guess it was wet in country there's a lot of country music it was lovely good like Hank Williams was big and and that the pop music and then they'd started playing stuff we started listening to Gatemouth Brown some people in Shreveport Louisiana there's a watch station or how what something but you could hear it late at night in love with their friend like rock with me Henry and Fats Domino and and Bill Haley of course was that was rock-and-roll thought but we liked all that stuff Betty's I sort of we'd been friends before but he came in a joint I was playing with a country band and he'd sit in play that that sort of stuff but a little richer than fast timing the first but record I bought was going to the river he fasted on the record that was your first right yeah you know you know you mentioned Paul McCartney do you know what his first record that he bought was mmm-mmm-mmm recorded here in Nashville quantity' hey we're gonna be right back we're going to talk about a really really famous song just a second the Cabaret is now open for a new season with shows all the way through 2019 call now at six one five three two seven four six three zero or go online to Ray Stevens cabaret calm come see me here at the cabaret in Nashville and 2019 hi i'm tyler rudesheim director of events at the musicians Hall of Fame and Museum located within the historic national mean of auditorium the musicians Hall of Fame and Museum is one of the most unique spaces in downtown Nashville offering a versatile environment that caters to events of all sizes your guests will love this truly national experience we specialize in corporate dinners music industry events receptions and more contact me today to book your next event welcome back musicians Hall of Fame with junior Allison ji one of the biggest pop rock records of all time was was Peggy Sue it's Peggy Sue and you got a great story with that I don't want to I want you to tell the story I don't want to say any more about it well buddy and I were riding around and he was 55 those 'mobile and we usually had a guitar in the car and I I couldn't play a lick at the time but even he had a song story called Cindy Lou was little what they called a cha-cha beater rumba beach town if you knew Cindy Lou then you know DubLi without Cindy and I had dated a girl in high school named Peggy Sue Guerin and she moved to California but anyway I still she didn't ever like me much and she got to appreciate me but yeah she passed away a while back I'm sorry that about that but anybody I talk buddy into changing it Peggy Sue and in dinner paradiddles and so we changed it and another thing from Bo Diddley right now that's that was not fade away this was just prayers like you know but a little a little and birdie does not fade away but we heard they on the way to ten they buy the stones sure did a good record of it yeah and anyway we changed it to Peggy Sue in those days we didn't have a producer I mean or pity was his studio and recorded but we started just played it and he recorded that was it but anyway I had to go out in the the entry entryway the studio because I mean that was pretty loud with the drums like that and it was eating up everything else the bulk vocal and the bass and it gets her even but anyway we did it once and I didn't get it right and now you know flustered in the middle and base ok don't get it this time it's indeed Louganis oh man so we got at the second time and it I love recording those days because you played it and nobody mixed it in the fix right and how you played you know if you've got to lay out or to solve that's ok that's if you write a song you could go slower and faster that's the way you wrote it and in my case if I write a song a song it's out of tune it's whatever yeah that's where I see how to to in fact with when we did the Ed Sullivan Show the first time we had had to sign it with after mm-hmm I like after it was enough to get sin but we made we've got a thousand dollars for doing it of course the agency and the management got 20 percent so we got eight hundred dollars and said well you got to be an after that'll be $800 so they took it and anybody that you know it's a singers Union and anyway I sang so good seem so goods perfect that I get a hundred a month pension oh that's nice yeah the musicians Hall of Fame and Museum has been celebrating the men and women who make the music of our lives since 2006 the musicians Hall of Fame is the one and only Museum in the world that honors the talented musicians who played on the greatest recordings of all time it's a music video it's and where else you gonna get the cats or the cats that are in this room the Grammy Museum gallery at the musicians Hall of Fame is an interactive facility that allows guests to explore the process of making a recording take drum lessons with ringo starr sing onstage with Ray Charles write a song with Desmond child wrapped with Nellie or B Garth Brooks in our recording studio experience located in the heart of downtown Nashville in the first floor of the historic Nashville Municipal Auditorium come see what you've heard at the musicians Hall of Fame and Museum anyway I lived you know all those guys driving Earl Palmer he played a lot of but fast on Little Richard surfin in New Orleans yeah and he was how Blanc gives him a lot of credit too because he was actually got how blind real famous to studio drummer in LA played on for those who don't know played on the Beach Boys and Mamas and Papas and everything yeah and Earl he gives him credit for getting him started in the recording business yeah or I played a lot with Earl guy it was good friends with him fact I went in the Air Force Reserve in 1961 and Earl let my cymbals resin you liked his so I just left him with him for that verse six months and I was in the Air Force Reserve you get him back yeah I did so what what people gonna wanna know to hear from you what happened you know as far as Buddy Holly and the crickets how did that how did that go apart and was it coming back together at the end and it was coming back together and I didn't really know it for a long time but certainly Curtis and Joby and I were hanging out in Clovis and nothing was happening well look Jay I and Buddy were playing just the two of them down at the roller rink and I think that's how they got man they got so tight you know displaying sock hops down at the roller rink and they played great together and man they could just almost feel what together what the other ones going to do next you know and so they went over to close and and recorded that'll be the day we had done it in Nashville but not not nearly that that good and they recorded that'll be the day and and they named themselves the creeks they Norman said you guys need to be a group and they lacked insects and so they started looking through the dictionary and I think it was ji that came up with the crickets and and then they became the crickets Sonny Curtis was an original member of the crickets right well he wouldn't actually remember the crickets but he played fiddle and guitar with buddy and Bob Montgomery he played buddy before I did woody my buddy Bob as a country band and Don yes played steel guitar and a filling Larry rubber and played slap bass a good band and I finally gotten that band but anyway and I like to rock and roll better than the other all of the other ones actually and anyway we started the crickets in 56 I guess and but anyway I was all going great and then I got married didn't help a thing and Betty got married and every musician knows what happens then like you're gonna go on the road at all time you know and so it just everybody moved to New York and Joby and I were going to move with you when we split up the agreement was when he wanted to stay in New York and Jay and I wanted he wanted to go to New York and Jay and I wanted to stay down in Texas so the agreement was that ji and I would work as the crickets and Buddy would work as Buddy Holly and then if we ever got uncomfortable with that wanting to get back together all it took was a phone call and so then that buddy was killed Jay and I were trying to call him and we had called ahead to I think Fargo North Dakota or wherever he was going to be the next night and left a message at the next venue he was gonna play they even call us when he got there and all sudden you know like I think Peggy Sue didn't particularly moved to New York and it just didn't feel right and bit after buddy that's we split sure didn't feel right because wasn't anything happening but we tried to call buddy actually the he was playing in Clear Lake High when we tried to call him from there and he would he had already left or something there was one payphone backstage I think but Waylon Jennings told me about 78 he told me that Betty said Amen you know I don't really like the way this is going on get ji and Jovi back and we're in some wool you know I'm play at playing bass and they said yeah but not very good he said your if some we're going to go to England again because the eagle was always really good to us and they said you don't need to play bass man you're a good singer and you're gonna show singing and John Joe bead will do it to her like that Wow he's really fun to hear that was this way I felt and and I'm buddies my best friend it's hard yeah after all we've been through and just stop it is it's pretty miserable yeah I can imagine we're in a band like that it kind of becomes your identity you know to and then everybody you know always has the van you know you're comfortable is so so I guess naming pay you sued worked and you got married to Peggy Sue I did yeah and we were married for nine years we were I think we're together about three months that nine years as well more than that but I'm she's a nice lady and nice folks and it was just it's hard to be rock n roll and stay home yeah well I'm doing this really like winging it so I'm gonna guess if we've about hit that half hour they were going to be allotted for this show but that's one see how much I appreciate it and and doing this and and you know when we first opened the museum it was kind of hard to get people to go with somebody that didn't have any track record in the museum's you know and and you were the I've told this long times you not you but because you knew but it would mean a lot to me that she wanted to put your drums in there and and and you actually instead of making me feel like you're not worthy you you you were like I'm not worthy kind of acted and I appreciate that men want well man I really appreciate having my drums here and if anybody doesn't know about they need to come to musicians Hall of Fame because it's it's my favorite Museum of like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Clift this means in Norwegian well hey there they're all good I love moment oh yeah I do too but this my favorite well you know I love you too appreciate it a lot well thank you Joe and thanks for all the let my friends in free hey is any of your friends or our friends you know and so hope you guys come back and see us next week when we'll have somebody not as cool as junior but okay cool thank you that's very nice [Applause]

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