UNDER THE INFLUENCE | The Art Assignment | Peggy and Garry Noland

UNDER THE INFLUENCE | The Art Assignment | Peggy and Garry Noland


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  • smrichardt says:

    Such an ambiguous title…

  • Shanti de Ruyter says:

    I love the idea of two artists who know each other exchanging styles, like in the video. Sounds like a fun way to do the assignment; too bad I don't really know anyone who old do it with me.

  • deadeaded says:

    Are there any artist who don't already do this? Every single artist I have ever met started learning by imitating others and trying to replicate styles/techniques.

  • presgutpela says:

    Such hair

  • leafgreen92 says:

    They're so sweet. Unlike them, I'm the odd one out in my family 🙂

  • leafgreen92 says:

    Also, of course you rewrote parts of catcher in the rye, john!

  • Kathy Trithardt says:

    I like the premise of copying a work directly (or making something in the same style) to get inside the creative mind of that person and experience a small piece of their process.

  • Ben Wright says:

    Their art was really…ugly.

  • Courtney Paz says:

    that is something I have always struggled with, influence. I spend a lot of time on the internet and I see what a lot of photographers, painters, and artists are doing and I constantly find myself wanting to be able to do what they do. But most of the time when I try or go out and attempt something there will be a point where I hit a wall, shut down, and walk away from it. i'm studying art yet I rarely find myself making art in my free time and I think I am exposed to so much amazing art that I spend more time thinking about what I could do vs actually trying to do something. I can never find inspiration or motivation to make something. I think it's an odd and fine line artists walk along, especially today with all of the technology and the internet, trying to learn and experience all the art that is out there, but then not letting that influence their art too much so they can create something new. it's just something I struggle with, the balance of all the things you take in vs what you create and the battle that it's easier than ever to see other art and be easily discouraged in your attempt to create something. 

  • Nathan Hutchcraft says:

    @The Art Assignment  Rose and I are from Kansas City! I have seen Peggy's work and I recognize her studio! Super cool!

    I love this assignment so much. I talk all the time about how collaboration is among my favorite elements of art. It's what makes Jazz so amazing, what makes film outstanding, even what makes YouTube videos awesome! When you can take two or more creative minds, what they are able to create between them or with each other's influence, to me, is one of the most exciting (and so extremely human) things!
    -Nathan

  • Little Art Talks says:

    This is a fantastic exercise. I especially love the idea of doing it with someone you know personally, since you can see how other people approach your work when they try to work with your style/technique 

  • gene says:

    In response to the video, I'd like to mention a viral video I saw recently featuring three men dancing on high heels. Their choreographer encourages dancers to go out of their comfort zone and learn broadly because it makes their final work more diverse.

    I think it relates back to the video on the idea that imitating other's style allows us to explore other dimensions of art.

    Link to their performance art:
    YANIS MARSHALL CHOREOGRAPHY. MUSIC BY BEYONCE. FEAT ARNAUD & MEHDI. STUDIO68 LONDON #BGT REHEARSAL

  • Fahimation says:

    I dont mean to offensive or anything. Just curious. Whats up with her hair? 

  • Sean Lamb says:

    Cool!  This is an assignment that I've been doing for a while in my photography.  It can take me a little longer to find the right situation for an emulation photograph, but I do them when I see them.  The example that I've got uploaded right now is inspired by a photograph by Jack Delano from May 1943; the original photo (part of the FSA/OWI collection) shows a railroad towerman at Proviso Yard in Chicago – http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/fsac.1a34682/?co=fsac .  My emulation shows a modern towerman at Galesburg Yard in Illinois – http://seanlambphoto.com/personal-work/trains-and-models/img_8631.jpg.php .

    It took me some time from seeing the inspiration photo to making my photo because it's pretty rare these days that people who don't work for railroads are allowed in yard control towers.  In this case, I was granted access as a participant in a tour of the yard.

  • RealSpaceModels says:

    Not just in art school, but even now, 32 year later I still look at other photographers work to get an understanding on how they see the world and how they then present that vision to others through their imagery.
     
    I think the Nolands were being very kind about the "I could do that" comment. While they decided to take the meaning of the comment as "I am inspired by that enough to try to do something like it" the fact is that any time I have heard someone say "I could do that" when looking at art, it means that they believe that the level of skill needed to produce such a work is so low that even they, with no talent, could do it. It is a comment that shows a total lack of understanding for the talent of the artist and their work.

  • Madalyn Hardwick says:

    I love this idea! As a musician, I feel like I already do some semblance of this exercise every time I go to a lesson or masterclass.

  • uptownboi10 says:

    love this assignment!!!!!!!!! 

  • lesliefoundhergrail says:

    5:02 Sarah's not taking any of your BS. 

  • lesliefoundhergrail says:

    This assignment is very tangible to YouTubers. It's fun to watch them start out with a vlogging aesthetic like wheezy or communitychannel or Ze and then you check back with them a few dozen videos later and see the parts of THEM as a maker finally shine through. My favorite thing is finding people who just started making videos without any influence so their style is based on a influence from another medium that's just been moulded to this space. 

  • hurlebibi says:

    Why does all of those arts assigments must be so …abstract and inhuman? 

    Don't get me wrong, most of them are pretty interresting, and are defenitively art. But I'm starting, after eleven video, to feel that all of what I love about art is getting looked upon by some sort of "official modern art"… :/

    Sharing moments, and experiences, and abstract visions of your subsconscient is definitively a part of modern art.

    But so are capturing human expression, human emotion, trying to drawn/sculpt/take a picture of some human (or animal) interaction that gets you out there…toying with colors until you find the one that gets you…creating your own world, your own creatures. Finding which music note/harmony correspond to your inside, to or to humanity. Anything more personal really :/

    The biggest example would be the last one, with the rug. I do understand the meaning of this piece of art, I did feel the emotion he was trying to get through with these handmade rug…but that's his story, with his background and his feelings. Frankly, I wouldn't have had made this rug even If I had the material at hand at the time. I don't share with rugs. Mine would maybe be pretty, but deeply meaningless and useless. For him the action was personnal, a way to create something that show what was inside of him. For us this action would be the creation of a weird rug.

    This one can be interpreted more personally (well…really doesn't have to, but can.), thus giving the one compulsory counterexample for this debate. But in global, that's really the feeling I get more and more :/

  • Rebecca Beam says:

    Ooo, I really like this one! It's going to be difficult to choose an artist, but I have a few ideas. 🙂

  • Gemma Ohlemacher says:

    @theartassignment Sara, you should read "Surviving Picasso" if you have not already. It is the autobiography of his granddaughter. She tells how much of a monster the man was, although he made some amazing art.

  • Gemma Ohlemacher says:

    *Sarah

  • Hilda Angulo says:

    Cool!!! I love this assignment!

  • Roo F says:

    i think ill create some art in the form of music influenced by the style of Stevie Ray Vaughan and Rory Gallagher……i have my work cut out for me

  • [lagnajita] says:

    i love this! I would be so stoked if ya checked out ma covers on ma channel!

  • Gonnie Z says:

    Oh, I love Peggy Noland so much her works are amazing

  • William English says:

    What I like about this assignment is that it give purpose to my GSCE art work, it fits the assignment so well!

  • Mariah C says:

    This is probably my favorite Art Assignment yet!

  • Ioana Moldovan says:

    This is amazing! I have been intrigued by Marina Abramovic for quite some time but that is wayy too out of my reach. 

  • Lisa Mallow says:

    Oh my goodness!!!! Kansas City, MO!!! The Noland's!!! this is my home, how cool!! 

  • Kendrick Faith says:

    Awww, theyre so sweet together

  • ilolicarly252 says:

    can we choose an author? I would love to write a short story or dialogue based on there writing style

  • terralynn9 says:

    Isn't this what we've been doing with all of the art assignments? Last week I made art in the style of Fritz Haeg (and loved it!). It's interesting to get to choose the creator myself this time.

  • screaming_cactus says:

    I'm kind of broadly influenced by anime and cartoons in general, so I'm going to ignore that. 😛 I don't know that many artists personally…. hm… I could use my former art teachers! They were brilliant. 

    I love webcomics, so I think I'll go with a webcomic artist or another artist I'm fond of. 

    Candidates are: Andrew Hussie, Bunny Bennett and A. Stifler. 

    Andrew Hussie has an odd range of art styles. He's capable of drawing very detailed images, but for the past six years, he's been making doodle-like, pixely artwork and he borrows stock or public domain images often and edits them. Those drawings can be very crude, but sometimes we will see very beautiful panels where it's clear he knows what he's doing. He's very good at working with color and composition. I like the bold, simple look of his comics. He is also among the first comic artists to incorporate animation and video games into a web comic, and if I learn how to animate, I would like to use the animated .gifs he uses so frequently. Hussie is a very hard worker, as far as I know, and I want to be able to focus so intensely on my work one day. 

    Bunny has impacted me on a more personal level. She's a cool lady. She is a trans woman, and few of her pieces examine gender. As a trans person, those mean a lot to me. Her art is very whimsical and she's also good at making creepy, but beautiful images. Speaking of influences, the influences of Picasso and Tim Burton are very apparent in her work. I aspire to be as imaginative as she is. She is also a performing artist and a musician, so she's super talented in other ways in addition to being an artist who works with digital art. I admire her a lot. 

    A. Stifler is another comic artist. Their style is similar to mine. Stifler is agender and when I found them I was like "FUCK YEAH, WE'RE BOTH NON-BINARY ARTISTS!" They make a comic about their daily life and they draw an urban fantasy comic that is written by their wife. Both comics are very good. 

    I also really like Pendleton Ward's work, but I haven't known about him as long as the other three. 

  • mustardsfire22 says:

    Peggy's statements when she's making her piece very clearly explain why authors like George R.R. Martin are afraid of fanfiction, but also why fanfiction is a good thing. Thus, fanfiction could fit this Art Assignment.

  • Megan Ritchie says:

    This is my favourite video thus far!

  • Eveline St. Lucia says:

    PLEASE VIST CHARLIE KANWISHER AT BOWLING GREEN UNIVERSITY HE IS SUCH AN AMAZING ARTIST AND PERSON AND PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH TO LEARN FROM HIM!!

    www.charleskanwisher.com

  • pete275 says:

    lol @ the use of the word "famously", that's a bit self centered isn't it? who cares which countries he never visited?

  • SomeoneCalledDana says:

    Has anyone else noticed their matching nail polish? I wonder what the story behind that is.

  • Jessica Toman says:

    I loved Gary and Peggy's response to the typical "I could have made that," statement.

  • Rebecca Beam says:

    I just had a thought — one interesting take would be finishing a work that another maker or artist has already started, using the assignment as a way to get into their head and try to understand their vision and intent for the finished project. This would only work with someone you know, and you could even purposefully only do part of a project before switching your partially-finished art pieces with a friend.

  • unihope says:

    You guys have probably already left Kansas City but the group called the Illustration Department/ The Art Connection would be great to include in The Art Assignment!

  • M Adam says:

    I used to do this with poems a lot.  I'd rewrite my favorite poems several times until it was in my head, push the written copies away, and then try writing something on my own.  Different things would shine through– maybe the theme, structure, certain turn of phrases, or whatever– but it always felt like a kind of collaboration, even though most of those poets had long since passed away.  This assignment makes me want to try that again ^^.

  • Kram1032 says:

    Sometimes I feel like more important to the Greens here than the Art Assignment given to all the viewers is, that John actually learns what Sarah even does. He almost always seems awfully stumped 😀

  • Tyrrell says:

    I totally identify with this. As a musician, my career would be nothing without the other musicians who have influenced me and whose works I've learned from.

  • Jess Wagstrom says:

    I love this show so hard.  This is easily my favorite educational show on these YouTubes.  🙂  (Don't tell John and Hank!)

  • LiquoriceLover says:

    I thought Bill Bailey was the only long haired bald person in the world…

  • Skywalker says:

    i though this art assignment was gonna be a three-step exercise, like:
    1. find a liquor store
    2. drink the liquor store   
    3. go forth and create art under the influence, preferably whilst chanting anything from bukowski's extensive bibliography 

  • weirdral says:

    I don't really have anyone that artistically influential around me, but my husband and I just bought a house and my uncle, who's a contractor, is going to be helping us repair it, and I think I'm going to do this assignment that way. Seeing how he can help us make the house a whole home.

  • Tyler May says:

    I think this is a great idea for an Art Assingment! Well done! I love seeing how people evolve in how they create and how it usually starts as a form of emulation. I think it would be so cool if people take what Leslie said in the comments and do a vlog of someone else's style for this assignment. I almost wish that I hadn't made an emulation video of Ze Frank already so I could do it for the Art Assignment. Oh well, I have several other videos that need worked on. 

  • Kailey Rausch says:

    As a young artist, I have the hardest time not looking at other's work and thinking, "wow, he/she is so much better than I am" and then feeling bad about my own work. This has helped me to realize that maybe we all need experiences like that to push us forward and help develop our own personal style as an artist. Thanks! 

  • Julian Montes says:

    This is something that I can definitely do. I actually started drawing by  imitating art styles of anime that I like; although they don't really look like that. I tried making fan art once but it didn't look like it was that character that I'm trying to draw but I was still satisfied with the finished drawing.

    I have seen many different styles of animation and I have decided to try and copy the art style of Gankutsuou: The count of Monte Cristo and the Witches from Madoka. The animation style is really not like of any show that I have seen; just google them and see what I mean.

  • Sara says:

    This is somewhat the reverse of fanart. Where fanart is taking a story/characters/concept you are inspired by and reworking them in your own style, this is this opposite.

  • Raquel Aragon says:

    Could this also be in the form of dance?

  • Michael Board says:

    Made me think of what inspired my teenage art, which cover art from fantasy books and anime. Icegraphic a t-shirt printing store drives me to come up with designs I want to see on shirts and hoodies 

  • kimmycheyenne says:

    this is ironic, for school I have to make photos replicating the style of a famous photographer. I'm doing Rineke Dijkstra's Beach Portraits this week

  • Princess Pizza says:

    Wonderful video 🙂
    ps the thumbnail says 10 instead of 11!!

  • PogieJoe says:

    Pretty awesome to see a father and daughter get along so well and be able to inspire and learn from each other!

  • Xania More says:

    🙂

  • ezralleigh says:

    Does music count as "making"? (i.e. writing or covering a song)

  • Patrick White says:

    On the idea of retyping a novel. Imagine typing a chapter of a cult favorite and then asking someone who hasn't read it to revise it. This thought came to me because no one just sits down and writes a great story they have to revise it. 

  • Fred Darcy says:

    This is really interesting! I am a geocacher and most all of my geocaches are inspired by other geocaches, I wonder what would happen if I had never seen any other geocaches.

  • Fred Darcy says:

    Take you thumb and cover Peggy's hair OMG

  • pointblank1 says:

    A bit off topic from the actual assignment… but I was so struck by Garry and Peggy's discussion of the viewer's comment that he "could have made that."  I know it's a common reaction to seemingly "easy to make" modern art (Jackson Pollock, Piet Mondrian, etc.), and one I might even have said at one point or another when viewing certain kinds of art.

    I'm sure that the man who made the remark would have felt awful if he knew the artist had overheard.  It made me wonder– how would it change the way I spoke about and viewed art if the artist was in the room?  The obvious response is that I wouldn't trash the art.  But going beyond that, I think if I didn't like or understand the art, I'd want to ask the artist why they made those choices.  What are they hoping to convey? For some reason, I think that makes me much more open to art I previously would have dismissed.

    Thanks for the video, and please excuse the rant!  🙂

  • Christine Reardon says:

    This is my favorite assignment so far. While I have not done any of them, I am certainly tempted by this one. Interestingly, what I want to do is type out one of my favorite novels to see what it is like to write a great work.

  • Elida V. Arreaga says:

    Her haircut is amazing

  • TheEndHero Artist says:

    I know I am quite late for this project.  I have been working on it for a very long time because it is very close to my heart.
    http://theendhero.tumblr.com/ 
    Although not all of the comic relates to the assignment chapter one is heavily influenced by watching this video.  It helped me to finally figured out the way I was going to tell my story. It is a story about bullying self harm and becoming a hero to yourself in spite of what others say.  I hope you enjoy and Thank you Sarah for leading this channel in such an helpful and open way.

  • Valentine Bo says:

    It's funny because I did that a while ago in my French class (yes, I speak French, so I guess it would be your English class, anyway). The teacher proposed to us to write every week about theme. The last theme we got was "a theft". I was a bit angry because of the theme which I found quite bad so I decided to "steal the style" of one of my favourite writer (Boris Vian). It was a challenging and funny experience and I realised how important the influences are in life (artistic, but also personal, etc)

  • Jay says:

    Yay, I did mine!

    https://youtu.be/nj28IUlFG0o

    It's inspired by the style of videographer (among other things) Sophie Newton. I'll post a link to her channel in a reply to this comment in a minute.

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